Tuesday, 30 September 2008


Hello again folks! I was talking the other day with Bob Mitchell specifically on the debate ongoing between those believers who hold to the belief in the Pre-Trib Rapture and those who hold to the Post-Trib Rapture view. There may even be a TV debate on this in the near future. My point in discussing this with Bob was that the other two views must also be covered in any debate so that believers can go way and be Bereans and check it out for themselves [not blindly running to their Pastor or favorite Tim La Haye book ... but to literally investigate it for themselves without pre-conceived ideas or notions; comparing scripture with scripture].
Whatever Rapture view one holds to; this is not a primary doctrine or a tenet of the faith. So it should be questioned, studied, debated and tested without the threat of dis-fellowship, excommunication ore even worse, indifference or bigotry. Some movements and churches treat this subject as a holy cow without realising the damage that blind obedience to church articles or policies can do. Paul was pleased to acknowledge the Bereans for their willingness to test all things and prove all things. So should the church in the 21st century.
So what are the other two views on the timing of the Rapture? They are the Mid-Trib view and the Pre-Wrath view. Those heretics [I can't think of an alternative word] who teach that the "rapture is a lie of the devil" are themselves purveyors of the doctrines of demons anyway.
So, I hear you ask, what is the Rapture? The word 'rapture' is derived from the Latin word 'raeptius' that equates to the Greek word 'harpaz┼Ź' and means 'to snatch away' or 'be caught up; suddenly'. This event of being translated, in the blink of an eye [11/100th's of a second], to be with the Lord Jesus Christ whilst assuming an incorruptible new body, is a part of the prophetic, yet-to-occur happenings as predicted in the Bible; specifically the books of Daniel, Revelation, Matthew 24-25 and 2 Thessalonians amongst others. The debate on the timing of the Rapture should therefore be divided across the four [4] views - not just the two [2] views usually espoused. Here is a brief summary:-
  1. Pre-Trib: the Rapture takes place before the seven [7] year [each being 360 days] Tribulation that equates to the seventieth [70th] week of Daniel.
  2. Post-Trib: the Rapture takes place at the end of the Tribulation [2,520 days after antichrist signs the covenant of death].
  3. Mid-Trib: the Rapture takes place at the mid-point of the Tribulation [after 1,260 days]
  4. Pre-Wrath: the Rapture takes place at the time of the sixth [6th] Seal.

The purpose of this blog is to engender debate and study. May I suggest that you visit this [in my opinion] excellent ministry web-site:-

I also have read these two [2] books and find the amount of prayer, study and scripture comparison with scripture inspiring and informative. As with all books on this subject matter, there is some [personal] speculation within, but on the whole, I personally recommend that you invest in these books:-
  • The Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church (Paperback) by Marvin J. Rosenthal (Author); Publisher: Thomas Nelson Publishers (June 1990); ISBN-10: 0840731604; ISBN-13: 978-8407316047
  • The Sign (Paperback) by Robert Van Kampen (Author); Publisher: Crossway Books; 3rd Revised edition (October 20, 2000); ISBN-10: 1581342322; ISBN-13: 978-1581342321

Jesus warned His disciples to be ready for His return and to NOT be deceived. Amongst the perils that will beset the remnant church in these last days is the money gospel and the almost mandatory, mainline 'traditional' belief in the Pre-Trib Rapture. When the current fad for faith in cash and the things of this world [not the next world] fails and, perhaps, the Rapture doesn't happen when expected [some will recognize the antichrist - see 2 Thessalonians 2], I believe that there will be a falling away amongst the church because things didn't happen to the plan taught by their movements and churches; and they have to endure at least part of the Tribulation [the wrath of satan] until they are rescued [if faithful] via the Rapture before the wrath or God/Day of the Lord.

Whether or not you agree with my hypothesis; please research all four views for yourself and don't rely on the opinion of men. Be a Berean and you may well end up better prepared and ready for the curtain call on Time than your brothers and sisters.

God bless you and God bless Israel ... KJS ... 30-Sep-2008

1 comment:

sarah p. said...

Shalom Keith!
one thing is sure, the Lord is coming back for his beloved bride,
are we ready, will he find us faithful, are we praying for the peace of Jerusalem, and supporting
the Jews, are we reaching the lost,
are we loving our brothers and sisters,and most of all are we lifting Yeshua high,
Lord bless you,and happy Rosh Hashana!
Sarah P.